Parallels Between Running A Business And Systems Trading

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Treating your systems trading as a business

Let me again draw some parallels between running a business and systems trading. Most successful businesses keep statistics on everything from their systems trading to their average dollar sale to the amount of people that come in the door. The reason a successful business does this is because they understand you must first keep score before you can begin to improve on that score. Systems trading is exactly the same.

Now that you’re looking to trade as a business, you need to learn some valuable statistics about your system so you can improve its systems trading performance. How could you ever expect to improve your systems trading unless you knew what it was you were looking to improve? Let me now cover a few of the definitions and major statistics that you need to know about your system. Firstly, you must understand the principle of R multiples. R stands for risk, the risk you take on any trade when we enter the market. The R multiple of a trade is the ratio of the profit and loss compared to the amount of money risked to make the profit or loss.

Hence, if you risk 200 dollars from systems trading in your initial stock, and you make a profit of 1,000 dollars, then you have made five times the amount you risked in the trade. In other words, you have an R multiple of five. Ultimately, you’re just wanting to get a good idea of your relative size of profits to your losses from systems trading by simply taking our average size of our winning trade and comparing them with the average size of our losing trades.

Next you want to calculate your win to loss ratio. That is how many times you get a winning trade to how many times you get a losing trade during the course of your systems trading. For example, if you had ten trades and four of those trades were winners, and six were losers, your win to loss ratio is simply four to six. This is just your hit rate from systems trading. In other words, you get 40 percent of your trades correct.

Can you believe that these simple two statistics that I’ve now gone over, you can calculate the average size of your winnings and the average size of your losers, multiply these figures with our win to loss ratio, and you’ll be able to calculate on average how much money you make with every dollar you risk from systems trading?

Another vital systems trading statistic you need to know about is your draw down. What is the maximum historical draw down that your system has received? What you’ll tend to find is systems that have a very high rate of return will also have massive draw downs. Is that draw down is something that you can live with?

I’m starting to introduce a few high level concepts to whet your systems trading appetite and encourage you to read more about back testing a system. To go into these in detail is a little bit outside the scope of this article, however, if you want to take your systems trading back testing knowledge to the next step, I recommend you get a fantastic book called “Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom” written by Dr. Van Tharp. He goes into these and many more concepts in much more detail. For those of you who think this sounds like a little bit too much work, let me put forward a scenario that will illustrate the importance of back testing your system.

Imagine systems trading a system that you knew had a wins and loss ratio of 60/40. You made profit on every six trades and lost on every four. How do you think you would feel and where would your confidence level be if after you traded the system for a little while, you had received a string of 11 losses in a row? Now, you knew that this system had a win to loss ratio of six to four. Would you have the confidence to open another trade if your systems trading is brought up another buy signal after getting 11 trades wrong?

Unless you’ve back tested your system, I would highly doubt it. That systems trading may have been a fantastically profitable system, however, since you hadn’t back tested it, you didn’t know that historically, this systems trading had received up to 13 losses in a row, and even with 13 losses in a row it was still a profitable system, but, of course you wouldn’t know that unless you back tested the system.

Here’s another point you may not have picked up unless you have done the correct back testing. Once you’ve employed excellent money management and you begin systems trading, be ready to experience a string of losses as soon as you begin. Countless times I’ve had clients who get disheartened by this fact because they don’t understand the nature of setting good management. If we’re adhering to the rules of cutting our losses short and letting our profits run, obviously because we’re cutting our losses short, those trades are going to last for a shorter amount of time.

This means once you begin systems trading, the odds of getting losses early in the race, are much higher than getting a winning trade especially when you consider many successful systems tradings run on a 40/60 win to loss ratio. The point I’m trying to illustrate here is you will not know the intricacies of your systems trading unless you back test it.

You need to begin to get an understanding of what works and what doesn’t from your own particular systems trading. You shouldn’t believe everything I’ve told you. Instead, you need to prove it to yourself and this is done through back testing of your systems trading.

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